tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post3966766692254863149..comments2024-03-10T20:46:19.274-04:00Comments on In the Middle: Love Objects - Beroul, mainlyCord J. Whitakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06224143153295429986noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-84065512903930414902012-08-01T13:49:35.169-04:002012-08-01T13:49:35.169-04:00*instead than = rather than/instead of*instead than = rather than/instead ofDanicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14886656416543352707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-53357002715436222462012-08-01T13:36:58.402-04:002012-08-01T13:36:58.402-04:00I recognize that experience, receiving love and re...I recognize that experience, receiving love and responding in the way Žižek describes, "who, me?" as in "who, or what(s), do you imagine you describe when you address this "me"? But what if you return this love? Are you then any less an "object for another"? Maybe those previously unknown apprehensions and attractions--when welcomed, for whatever reason--provide a sense of growth outward, instead than estrangement. Tricky.Danicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14886656416543352707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-72711981689738703692012-08-01T07:33:19.063-04:002012-08-01T07:33:19.063-04:00Being ethically in relation can be annoying, dange...Being ethically in relation can be annoying, dangerous, or estranging ...<br /><br />An interesting, complicated post.<br /><br />So much rides on these lines of yours: "Mark wants the family back together. He wants Tristan to accept his love. And Tristan, feeling the obligation, flees, fleeing this love and this duty to hew to others."<br /><br />Is wanting the family to stay together the same thing as love? Can love be glossed as obligation and duty to hew to others -- or is love that which exists exterior to such forms? Does love inhere in social and familial bonds, or are these what love bucks against? It seems to me that's those questions are what all the versions of the Tristan story explore.<br /><br />Love is often unwanted. Obligation and ethical entanglement are often unwanted, too. Love can be uncomfortable. So can be the ties that bind us to the family member who doesn't want our feeling dutiful towards them (is that love?), and the ties that bind us to others not connected by biology (people we might not like, things we might not like -- but isn't there a demand inhering in our relations to them?)<br /><br />Your post is causing me to think out loud, but not coherently. I want to say that kinship ties and familial obligation may or may not operate within a circuit determined by love. I may not care at all for my sister -- it is possible not to love your parents or brother, or for them to love you -- but that doesn't make ethical connection evaporate. Or does it?<br /><br />I like how you invoke OOO at the end, but I think it also gets at what is disconcerting about ALL relation.Jeffrey Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346504393740520542noreply@blogger.com