tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post4202566370711501213..comments2024-03-10T20:46:19.274-04:00Comments on In the Middle: The Pardoner's present -- and futureCord J. Whitakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06224143153295429986noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-77855971787650749372007-03-16T16:31:00.000-04:002007-03-16T16:31:00.000-04:00one could be ambivalently heterosexual I suppose.....one could be ambivalently heterosexual I suppose....theswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919025515524894537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-80251873366390279182007-02-04T11:48:00.000-05:002007-02-04T11:48:00.000-05:00I have to agree with you Prof. Cohen, how is one e...<i>I have to agree with you Prof. Cohen, how is one enthusiastically heterosexual?</i><br /><br />Well, I think it'd be a matter of not keeping your body in check. Certain kinds of masculinity are predicated on <i>control</i> of powerful forces. Abandonment of yourself to your own forces ("precious bodily fluids") creates a kind of queer (hyper)masculinity.<br /><br />There's also the Pardoner as the quarantined site of queer readings, as if the normative sexualities of the other pilgrims was invisible to analysis ((mis?)remembering a diss chapter I read by Shayne Legassie).Karl Steelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353370018006849747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-70214182633756878902007-02-03T01:59:00.000-05:002007-02-03T01:59:00.000-05:00by the by one should never listen to bill engvall ...by the by one should never listen to bill engvall ranting about stupid people while reading blogs on the internet... leads to all sorts of madness<br /><br />and this whole idea of enthusiastic heterosexuality is still bothering me hours later, I want to do research on the topic and I don't have time to do it! Or at least reread Chaucer and again there is no time... <br /><br />where or where did time go?<br /><br />I'm gettng silly so I'm leavingRaeRaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359152226454336573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-73808464635506202692007-02-02T21:59:00.000-05:002007-02-02T21:59:00.000-05:00I have to agree with you Prof. Cohen, how is one e...I have to agree with you Prof. Cohen, how is one enthusiastically heterosexual? Do they wear a sign proclaiming this state of being? Or maybe they are enthusiastically heterosexual versus boredly (I am not sure that is a word but I am using it anyway) heterosexual. Perhaps they are preventing themselves from becoming bored with themselves.RaeRaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359152226454336573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-3914087169476829122007-02-01T08:58:00.000-05:002007-02-01T08:58:00.000-05:00Eileen: Ouch! I'd be nothing without my modesty to...Eileen: Ouch! I'd be nothing without my modesty topos. I'm a medievalist, I can't help it. <br /><br />I like that anti-gay version of the Pardoner isn't just heterosexual but "enthusiastically heterosexual." That is such a great phrase -- and makes you think, as opposed to what? Hesitantly heterosexual? Judiciously heterosexual? Wanly heterosexual?<br /><br />JKW: Glad to stir the embers of memory. As you can tell, the class is pretty much what it always was.<br /><br />kdegruy: Thanks for the Zeikowitz reference. He has a very good book on the medieval queer as well.Jeffrey Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346504393740520542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-82965539682523892572007-01-31T13:46:00.000-05:002007-01-31T13:46:00.000-05:00Oh, so your handout is a little out of date, but y...Oh, so your handout is a little out of date, but you *knew* all those other references already and you *do* know how to use the copy-and-paste function on the computer, right? I thought so. Your topos of "false ossification" just isn't working for me today, Prof. Always-Cutting-Edge Cohen. I do love some of those older essays on the Pardoner, though [like Benson's and Green's readings] that are so insistent on making the Pardoner "straight," as if, somehow, that makes his barely-masked aggression, self-loathing, and perversity more palatable. He flirts with women--he *must* be heterosexual! Yeah. Right.Eileen Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756965845120441308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-57022853908087760122007-01-31T00:55:00.000-05:002007-01-31T00:55:00.000-05:00Under "queer," you could file
Zeikowitz, Richard....Under "queer," you could file<br /><br />Zeikowitz, Richard. “Silenced But Not Stifled: The Disruptive Queer Power of Chaucer’s Pardoner.” The Dalhousie Review:Medieval Culture Issue. Halifax: Dalhousie University, 2002. 55-73. <br /><br />I'll be watching this spot for the emergence of the postcolonial Pardoner!Karmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651110371762568682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-54591646630066443142007-01-30T21:05:00.000-05:002007-01-30T21:05:00.000-05:00VH1: Back to the (13)90s. It'll be the next big t...VH1: Back to the (13)90s. It'll be the next big thing on cable.<br /><br />How odd that you mention this xerox, which you deployed in the Chaucer class that I took with you in the autumn of 2001. Just the other day I was thinking about that list of half a dozen or so definitions scholars have given the Pardoner over the years, and I was wondering if you still use it and if you've added to it.<br /><br />Guess I got my answer.JKWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965566773252227387noreply@blogger.com