tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post7489856187859563096..comments2024-03-10T20:46:19.274-04:00Comments on In the Middle: The Ruins and the PastCord J. Whitakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06224143153295429986noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-23519709393883148672008-08-08T19:20:00.000-04:002008-08-08T19:20:00.000-04:00Thanks JeffreyThanks JeffreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-40061389680916225082008-08-08T11:09:00.000-04:002008-08-08T11:09:00.000-04:00MKH, another excellent post, thanks, and thanks fo...MKH, another excellent post, thanks, and thanks for more guidance on your thinking on ruins. I think I'm finally started to get it! And, yes, there is a nice intersection with my animal work, especially with what I'm reading right now: Donna Haraway's <I>When Species Meet,</I> which in part describes a non-appropriative way of becoming-with, working-with animals, of being touched by them, of recognizing them rather than just (as Derrida does with his cat) letting them be. <BR/><BR/>Incidentally, Haraway carries out so much of this analysis through her own experience with her own dogs. Given her own 'middle class' background (her father was a sportswiter, a wordsmith, and think simpatico with his daughter's profession), I begin to wonder about the relationship between class background and autobiographic-contoured criticism.....<BR/><BR/>Right! My longer comment just became a post in itself.Karl Steelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353370018006849747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-77308712922460909692008-08-08T07:15:00.000-04:002008-08-08T07:15:00.000-04:00Thanks, Steven, your site looks interesting. We sp...Thanks, Steven, <A HREF="http://steventill.com/" REL="nofollow">your site looks interesting.</A> We speak a lot about the intersection of the artistic and the scholarly, and I see that is very much what your own blog is about ... as is Carolyn Dinshaw's <EM>Getting Medieval</EM>, the book we've been discussing here.Jeffrey Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346504393740520542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-56345181148689656232008-08-07T19:49:00.000-04:002008-08-07T19:49:00.000-04:00I would have sent you an email but I didn't see on...I would have sent you an email but I didn't see one listed on the site, so I just thought I would post here.<BR/><BR/>I came across your site through Dr. Richard Nokes' Unlocked Wordhoard blog. I'm a subscriber to his blog (Dr. Nokes also regularly links to my site in his "Morning Medieval Miscellany" posts), as well as a subscriber to Carl Prydum's blog Got Medieval, among others. I’m just now trying to fill out my own blogroll — I’ve been slow to add other resource links to my website — and the category of “medieval resources” definitely needs some links added to it.<BR/><BR/>I notice we share several of the same Web site interests, and I was wondering if you would be interested in trading links: I'll add your site to my blogroll and vice versa. Let me know if you're interested.<BR/><BR/>Best wishes, <BR/><BR/>StevenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21165575.post-45520973584189447002008-08-07T19:38:00.000-04:002008-08-07T19:38:00.000-04:00Wow, thank you so much for this MKH. I envy you th...Wow, thank you so much for this MKH. I envy you the chance you had to come at the book fresh ... as you indicate, in 2008 there is something comfortable about GM, and I believe that has to do with the fact that so much of the work has been absorbed into the interpretive practices it both encouraged and enabled.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes the absorption has proceeded a little too silently, unfortunately. Both Eileen and I have shared our apprehension that CD's GM is not cited as often as it might be in recent queer work that happens to be deeply allied with its project (indeed, queer work that is hard to believe would exist so comfortably in the academy without GM).<BR/><BR/>The other side of this is to point our that GM is not always the most generous book in the world when it comes to citing other medievalist work. A scholar/queer theorist who never seems to get his due (not just in GM but more widely in medieval studies) is Glenn Burger. His essay "Kissing the Pardoner" was published in PMLA in 1992: queer theory, Chaucer, the Pardoner, performativity -- it's all here, and I want to emphasize that PMLA in <EM>1992</EM> was an almost impossible forum into which to place such work. And don't forget that Burger was blazing the deleuzian queer theory trail in 1997, in his Miller's Tale essay in <EM>Becoming Male in the Middle Ages</EM>.<BR/><BR/>Burger was obviously not alone. A queer community -- a pretty vibrant one in fact -- existed in 1999, and so even though GM is trailblazing, we shouldn't think of it as a project without traveling companions.<BR/><BR/>OK, the one other thing I wanted to to add is that Dinshaw did profoundly change how I interpret a text when it comes to Margery Kempe. I first heard what became her Kempe/Gluck chapter at the <A HREF="http://www8.georgetown.edu/departments/medieval/labyrinth/conf/cs95/" REL="nofollow">Cultural Frictions conference </A>in 1995 (Mary Kate was in preschool, I think). Until that moment I had heard some feminist versions of Kempe -- but nothing that struck me (in my limited reading) as overly inventive. CD's reading of MK as queer opened doors for me, and the text has not been the same since.<BR/><BR/>MK, I like your idea of the temporally thick ruin (esp. resonates with Eileen's obsession with <EM>The University in Ruins</EM>; I'm kind of glad she's gone away so she won't swoop in and quote it again). And I think that you are exactly right to discern the future CD -- the temporal CD, if you will -- within the queer one.Jeffrey Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346504393740520542noreply@blogger.com